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I can see the back of your knee. So much, it seemed, depended on covering ourselves—and in some circlesit still does.

Back in high school, when we girls would ask our teachers for the source of the laws of modesty, the classic answer was to turn to Micah 6: Yet now it dawns on me that the same text has been misread, poorly taught.

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Do you think you pqnties be helping them? Do you believe that every facet of Halacha was dictated by the G-d you believe in?

Then do it, and stay away from the bad middos shown by these people. I understand your points and almost completely agree with you.

The point is not to be completely modest but to be walking with Gd and that must be done modestly. The o though is with how everyone only cares how people perceive them not how they actually act and as you correctly pointed out that is not how we should be.

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Agree here. It only furthers the hate and ruins it for the honest enthusiastic people. Are those your feet in the picture? You hit the nail on the head identifying a problem that does not just affect the Haredi world.

I cannot overstate the dammage that the Haredim do in terms of turning jews away from Torah. Your thoughts are your responsibility. If Meet somewhere Lakewood quiet no panties on or any man want so to leer at a woman, that reflects on you, not on the woman. Again, precisely the sort of thing that turns Jews away from Torah, a consequence for Lakewoo the Haredi world should be made to take full responsibility.

Hey, great message unfortunately so true. I think in order to gain a complete understanding of what being tzniut is all about one must first internalise what it mean to be modest and a G-d fearing woman and THEN put it into action.

What a poor excuse for an essay. Long, rambling and graceless and the message, dull and derivative.

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Why do we need this? What does this add?

The Torah is so much bigger than all of this pettiness. I recommend that the author visit Ravmosheweinberger.

This is great. Our latest post has people one upping each other on how to be more religious…alienating and unaccepting…thoughts? One very minor point: Just a qyiet comment. It does not necessarily have anything to do with Zionism.

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One can identify themselves as a Chardal and not as a Zionist. This essay sums up many reasons why the Orthodox world beyond the Modern Orthodox circle, is sick and so unappealing to the vast majority of Jews. Demonizing women and Meey about modesty to such a degree is sick.